[Kaffe] new stack trace patch.

Maxim Kizub max at immsp.kiev.ua
Mon Feb 8 01:48:42 PST 1999


Hello.

I think, it's a bit unrelated to kaffe, but can you explain
your problem?

If you wish to have work-by-contract emulation - why you do
not use a compiler/preprocessor that has this feature?
I know at least three of them.

In my expirience (I use stack traces to find out the
method that called a specified one) - the parsing of
stack trace is _extremly_ slow operation.
A program that will offten use code like your will
be virtually impossible to debug, because all time
will be spended on trace output parsing...

Also, what's wrong with additional local variables?
Your code will be used with jit? I think, native
instructions speed is not related to position of
local variable - all of them are accessed
in the same way, unlike 5 first slots in JVM bytecode.

Alex Nicolaou wrote:
> 
> Patrick Tullmann wrote:
> >
> > > Personally, I consider any code that relies on parsing stack traces
> > > highly bogus.
> >
> > I second that.  Since stack trace parsing is obviously somewhat
> > VM-dependent it shouldn't be too hard to add a
> > kaffe.util.StackTraceConverter or something for getting the
> > information you're really interested in.  That or just revisit the
> > "need" for stack trace parsing...
> 
> Since two people have now commented on how using the stack trace is
> bogus, I figure I could at least say what we were using it for. In
> Eiffel, there's a great assertion construct called "old", which you can
> use to compare the value of a variable to its value when the function
> was entered. To give a trivial example, the pop() routine of a stack
> class would have the following postcondition: size == old size - 1,
> since pop removes one item from the stack.
> 
> We wanted to implement this for Java. Of course these assertions get
> stripped out at production compile time, and of course the code didn't
> rely on stack traces for any of its normal function. The stack trace
> plus the current thread plus the variable whose old value was being
> stored made a sensible unique key for finding the variable again at the
> end of the function. So, in Java, the pop() example would look something
> like
> 
> .. pop() {
>     Debug.StoreInt( "size", size );
>     // do the pop
>     Debug.Postcondition(size - 1 == Debug.getInt( "size" ));
> }
> 
> Off-hand, I can't think of a thread-safe way of implementing this that
> doesn't use stack traces and doesn't introduce extra local variables.
> Since we didn't want to use a C pre-processor on our Java code,
> introducing extra locals didn't seem like a good option. (We did have to
> resort to a Java preprocessor to remove all code inside a Debug.*()
> method call.)
> 
> In general, knowing the stack trace programmatically is a great way to
> do certain debugging tasks, and the fact that there's no stack trace
> object that can be used to inspect it from running code is clearly an
> oversight in the design of the exception objects, which are too deeply
> embedded in the VM and don't provide a sufficient interface to Java code
> for their functionality.



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