In <D6C3D866-9601-11D8-A833-000393AA19AE@verizon.net> Michael Franz wrote: > The lack of GMP would explain why a math test takes 48 seconds with > Apple's JDK and 18 minutes in Kaffe. remember that kaffe on PPC has no JIT but only intr. This is _very_ slow. Add to that no native math and you can have a coffee (...) while running java stuff. -Ric