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Wed May 29 06:02:29 PDT 2002
--- Jukka Santala <jsantala at tml.hut.fi> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2002, Dalibor Topic wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be nicer if the VM did that kind of
> > optimization automatically? Imagine the following:
> Yes, I had a thought of that, too, especially since
> Kaffe already has the
> feedback-framework (Which doesn't appear to work
> currently;) in place.
The feedback framework sounds nice, although I thought
about a simpler implementation based on a classloader
that inlines small methods before defining a class. It
could be based on a few heuristics, like bytecode
size: if there are private methods with bytecode size
< 64 inline them. If there are calls to methods from
the superclass which are smaller than 64 bytecodes,
and do not directly depend on private
methods/fields/classes of the superclass, inline them.
And so on.
The jakarta bcel toolkit looks nice in that respect.
Current Kaffe can build and run it. I tested the
included pure java verifier, and it seems to work.
It's not too fast though ;) Verifying HashMap takes a
few seconds on my intel p3 500, linux, jit3.
> Altough these kinds of optimizations are, IMHO, ones
> which best suit or
> are easiest to implement in presetn Kaffe core.
> Real, code-transforming
> optimizations are quite much harder in the present
> direct translation, but
> inlining is often easier. It should even be possible
> to inline some of the
> lighter C library calls, to reduce the overhead for
> simple, often-used
Peephole optimization in the class loader would be
possible, too. Jopt and jarg use bcel internally, so
maybe we could interface the class loader to Jopt or
jarg to perform cheap peephole optimization on the
> > For even better impact, you could delay inlining
> > code until the jit tries to compile it.
> That seems like the way to go; altough the present
> feedback-feature tries
> to compile used classes at start-up anyway. In any
> case some sort of
> feedback loop seems preferable; see my earlier
> comment about knowledge of
> program internals and experience. Without knowing
> which code-paths are
> going to get heavy use, the VM couldn't (shouldn't?)
> decide on what paths
> to inline without just causing extra memory-use.
Yes, feedback definitively beats heuristics, but
heuristics should be easier to implement ;)
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